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if your name came up as part of an fbi investigation or adjacent to an fbi vacation, how long would it take tor your name to get up to the president? he said two or three hours. if h the president was out of te country, probably aay day. no more than that. >> pat, obviously you had nothing to do with this. i want everyone to try to understand what happens in the f.b.i. if theet fbi is then investigatg the head of the cia, now, remember,he this started in may. they knew it was petraeus by the summer, and they actually interviewed petraeus and his paramour broadwell for the second time in september or october. wouldn't they have an obligation to tell the president? >> well, listen. the fbi works with the department of justice and eric holder stated he was aware of the investigation. >> why didn't holder tell the president? >> that i can't answer you. i can tell you that bob muller is a very ethical man, a very good man. >> i have to agree with you, pat. >> no doubt in my mind that they advised the attorney general. why the attorney general did not advise the president i think we need to
if your name came up as part of an fbi investigation or adjacent to an fbi vacation, how long would it take tor your name to get up to the president? he said two or three hours. if h the president was out of te country, probably aay day. no more than that. >> pat, obviously you had nothing to do with this. i want everyone to try to understand what happens in the f.b.i. if theet fbi is then investigatg the head of the cia, now, remember,he this started in may. they knew it was petraeus by...
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the investigation done by the fbi, but they determined there was no question of loyalty, no national security compromise. they stop. there is another aspect of this thing, suitability for conduct. you can be a patriot, but if you are habitually to excess, that, a problem with the access to classified material. the justice department with all that i don't know why they did it. >> margaret? >> these things are done clandestinely until they are not. love is fleeting, gmamiil isn't. we are addicted to e-mail and we put things in it we don't want to be seen, but we hold the cia director to a higher standard. but i wonder with our military and political figures, to -- if it is in somewhat to elevated now. divorce is soaring in the military. these deployments are hard on families. people are weak and we are stupid in the throes of a romantic affair. do we want to get rid of people like general petraeus when there is no national security breach? the person who should be fired is that fbi agent and all the people who let that go up the chain of command. >> what do you make of that, nina? >> i
the investigation done by the fbi, but they determined there was no question of loyalty, no national security compromise. they stop. there is another aspect of this thing, suitability for conduct. you can be a patriot, but if you are habitually to excess, that, a problem with the access to classified material. the justice department with all that i don't know why they did it. >> margaret? >> these things are done clandestinely until they are not. love is fleeting, gmamiil isn't. we...
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so i think the fbi has a lot of questions to answer. >> lots of people including my next guest obviously have serious doubts, serious misgivings about the administration's contention that thes president only learned aftr the election about the sex scandal that destroyed general david petraeus' career. he is congressman from utah. thanks for being with us. why does it stick in your craw that eric holder said he only told the president after the election was over? >> well, look. general petraeus wasn't heading up the fish and while life department. he's the head of the cia. if there's an investigation, a question about what he's doing in his personal life, i think that should come to the the president of the united states. he may not to choose to do anything, but to leave him in the dark is inexcusable. >> ik hear skepticism in your voice. do you believe that there is some misreception going on? >> what i'm worried about is that somewhere between the fbi and the department of justice, somebody didn't take this to the president of the united states. when you're the head of the central intel
so i think the fbi has a lot of questions to answer. >> lots of people including my next guest obviously have serious doubts, serious misgivings about the administration's contention that thes president only learned aftr the election about the sex scandal that destroyed general david petraeus' career. he is congressman from utah. thanks for being with us. why does it stick in your craw that eric holder said he only told the president after the election was over? >> well, look....
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she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell. she has been psycher stalked and she could actually go out and go after paula for doing that. >> you are sleeping with the head of the cia and you can write an autobigrammy . and you have no credentials to do and we'll award you money. >> some people think the terrorist attack caused by a youtube video. and people may. >> gloria allred will call jim kelley. >> her name will not be smoking. >> aren't you concerned about the fact that men can be so weak that they can're - can be manipulated. if you could read my mind 23 hours a day. we are sick human beings and we are visually stimulated and sexually predatorial. nand yes, we
she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell....
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>> when you have a jealous woman, jealous women can out fbi the fbi any day of the week. there is some chemical reaction that turns us into nsa agents. and we will go after those we deem a threat which is apparently what happened here and i guarantee you she knows every pass word she nodes to know. women are better cia agents. no offense, mike baker. >> he says he was in the cia, but the way he dresses it is like, who can believe that? >> he is mad that i didn't go to him first. you were upset. >> i am not. i was laughing about the intro. i haven't actually heard the story introd before. what is your take on this? a, he made a serious, serious mistake. he owned up to it. i think part of the surprise is they are not used to seeing a high level washington official do the right thing after confessing to a mistake. in bill clinton's own words, a couple days before the election he was in an obama rail lee. he stood there and said, you know when i was younger and i was caught with my hand in the cookie jar, i just take my hand out of the cookie jar. we were being lectured about
>> when you have a jealous woman, jealous women can out fbi the fbi any day of the week. there is some chemical reaction that turns us into nsa agents. and we will go after those we deem a threat which is apparently what happened here and i guarantee you she knows every pass word she nodes to know. women are better cia agents. no offense, mike baker. >> he says he was in the cia, but the way he dresses it is like, who can believe that? >> he is mad that i didn't go to him...
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nvestigation, i don't want to question the motives of the fbi. i am sure that they -- they have gone by the instructions of which they operate. neil: when you are under president nixon, even whenthe administrations were competing, they thought that was okay. they thought they were doing better for the country. >> the fbi did it to prove the job. they did the internal pursuit of espionage in this country. they operated abroad. sometimes these lines might cross. i did not come across it during the watergate period. neil: we are not after that. this is a scandal that grows in your opinion? or not? >> you know, i endorsed governor romney. but i would like now to the new administration could start without avoidable controversy. but the information was known at a high-level, it is a matter that the countries want to look into. on the whole, i would like to focus on the future. to not have beginning of administration. that would be my attitude. this evidce developed of the major capacity, there will be consequences. neil: we are going to take a quick br
nvestigation, i don't want to question the motives of the fbi. i am sure that they -- they have gone by the instructions of which they operate. neil: when you are under president nixon, even whenthe administrations were competing, they thought that was okay. they thought they were doing better for the country. >> the fbi did it to prove the job. they did the internal pursuit of espionage in this country. they operated abroad. sometimes these lines might cross. i did not come across it...
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had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi. everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. >> independent senator joe leiberman said today a watergate style committee is not needed to figure out answers to the benghazi attacks. >> the senator went on to sort of suggest in very light handed way that he's not quite sure that the white house is telling the truth on this whole thing. all right. doug in washington. thanks. >> well, weeks since super storm sandy slammed on shore and parts of new york city are still struggling to recover. we are live in lower manhattan with the latest on recovery efforts. anna. >> good evening, heather. residents, we just had one come up to us and say she's not going to have power for some eight months. but many of these businesses and residential towers still don't have power or water or heat and don't have reopen dates yet. we are in the south street seaport area, a very historic
had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi. everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. >> independent senator joe leiberman said today a watergate style committee is not needed to figure out answers to the benghazi attacks. >> the senator went on to sort of suggest in very light handed way that he's...
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kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case is open is someone has an agent's business card, then we are in trouble. in the midst of this coverage, it's difficult to separate it from trivial and the relevant. as gripping as the tale is, it is almost entirely that, a human drama. people acting as people do. i'm reasonably sure, a sweep of e-mails opened at random would reveal similarly sorted things. that's the point. we all have facts about ourselves we don't want the world to know. it's why privacy is important. details over our lives matter as a core protection from state overreach. the power that comes from inside knowledge of a person'
kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case...
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petraeusus to be blackmailed byt fired by at.e >> in defense of the fbi agent, he thought he was doing is duty -- >> he is shirtless and he goes to a congressman because he he is getting attention? >> the only person who comes out looking really good is eric cantor.r. >> no, n no, absolutely not! absolutelyly not eric cantor was given information and he should hav shouldto the leaderer, he to the chairman of committee, he of -- why did he sit t on it? he didn't sit on ! >>e did sit on it. he clammed up. >> we have a certain difference of opinion on this matt. ♪ [ male announcer ] from our nation's networks... ♪ ...to our city streets... ♪ ...to skies around the world... ♪ ...northrop grumman's security solutions are invisibly at work, protecting people's lives... [ soldier ] move out! [ male announcer ] ...without their even knowing it. that's the value of perrmance. northrop grumman. is the fastest internet in america. just ask pc mag. [ male announcer #2 ] cable can't touch fios upload speeds. it's hard to imagine anyone ever beating fios. there's no doubt fios is the faste i
petraeusus to be blackmailed byt fired by at.e >> in defense of the fbi agent, he thought he was doing is duty -- >> he is shirtless and he goes to a congressman because he he is getting attention? >> the only person who comes out looking really good is eric cantor.r. >> no, n no, absolutely not! absolutelyly not eric cantor was given information and he should hav shouldto the leaderer, he to the chairman of committee, he of -- why did he sit t on it? he didn't sit on !...
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former cia director general petraeus and an extramarital affair, a florida socialite, a bare chested fbi agent and is this a concern or a washington smoke screen? >> i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulties. >> both sides work to gain the high ground in dealing with the looming fiscal cliff, but the media seem to be one-sided in the details. which side do you think they're on? and it's in with the new, but are the old staying, too. >> oh, you've always asked that question except to mitch mcconnell. >> on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor judy miller. jove oldman, talk radio and jim pinkerton contributing editor the american conservative magazine, and alan colmes, author of thank liberals for saving america and i'm jon scott, fox news watch is on right now. >> this is about the role she played around four dead americans when it seems to be that the story coming out of the administration and she's the point person, is so disconnected to reality, i don't trust her. and the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better
former cia director general petraeus and an extramarital affair, a florida socialite, a bare chested fbi agent and is this a concern or a washington smoke screen? >> i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulties. >> both sides work to gain the high ground in dealing with the looming fiscal cliff, but the media seem to be one-sided in the details. which side do you think they're on? and it's in with the new, but are the old staying, too. >>...
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and then there is the serious parter the fbi. en toless rogue agent manages to set off a series of convenients. >> and he was a friend of jill kelley who toppled this investigation. >> this is huge. and do we want the fbi to have an agent who's able to do this in a series of actions? >> and there's still questions, serious questions about the fbi procedures in this. if indeed they concluded early on that there was no national security or criminal issue here, then why didn't it stop right there? >> and why did director claerp -- >> why did it become public? i'd like to know. >> why didn't director james clapper at that point say there is no reason to resign. >> oh. you're saying why didn't he say that. he's the white house official who essentially pushed petraeus out. let's come back to the media coverage. sigh these stories as an attempt to keep the story alive. jill kelley visited the white house three times. once was a tour and once when she had lunch with a low level official. even things that are technically true, with they'r
and then there is the serious parter the fbi. en toless rogue agent manages to set off a series of convenients. >> and he was a friend of jill kelley who toppled this investigation. >> this is huge. and do we want the fbi to have an agent who's able to do this in a series of actions? >> and there's still questions, serious questions about the fbi procedures in this. if indeed they concluded early on that there was no national security or criminal issue here, then why didn't it...
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kelly pidiÓ ayuda a un agente del fbi cuando recibiÓ correos amenazante. correos que le llegaron al general allen, que estÁ al mando de las tropas estadounidenses en afganistÁn niega cualquier relaciÓn inapropiada con kelly. el fbi revisa correos electrÓnicos. >>> la seguridad es frÁgil hasta cierto punto. >>> tambiÉn pone en duda el estado del liderazgo del ejÉrcito en el campo de batalla. >>> fuentes militares nos dicen que dentro del ejÉrcito hay suficientes profesionales capacitados para dirigir y que el escÁndalo no afecta la moral de las tropas. >>> para hablar mÁs de este tema que continÚa aumentando en su intensidad y preocupaciÓn nos vamos a la capital mexicana, nuestros estudios se nos une erick rojo, coronel retirado y analista de temas de seguridad y polÍtica, gracias por estar con nosotros. >>> un gusto de estar con ustedes. >>> el viernes pasado david petraeus a puertas cerradas en el comitÉ de inteligencia en washington fue citado para hablar del ataque del 9- 11 contra el consulado estadounidense en libia donde murieron cuatro
kelly pidiÓ ayuda a un agente del fbi cuando recibiÓ correos amenazante. correos que le llegaron al general allen, que estÁ al mando de las tropas estadounidenses en afganistÁn niega cualquier relaciÓn inapropiada con kelly. el fbi revisa correos electrÓnicos. >>> la seguridad es frÁgil hasta cierto punto. >>> tambiÉn pone en duda el estado del liderazgo del ejÉrcito en el campo de batalla. >>> fuentes militares nos dicen que dentro del ejÉrcito hay...
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this whole thing was triggered into an fbi investigation due to e-mails sent by two people who were -- how do we put it, having a relationship with petraeus one way or another? >> you know, girls get jealous and start threatening each other on e-mail. >> when did that become an fbi crime? >> this is a reminder that our law enforcement alleges have a lot of discretion into the people they might trigger investigations to be pursued. that's what happened here. the fbi agent deemed this a credible threat, presumably to national security because of the high profile and identity of the alleged target here, general petraeus. >> so once they got into it, though, that's when everything started blowing up. i mean, is anything private? >> well, when the united states government decides it wants information and there's a law enforcement bassos for getting that -- basis for getting that information, e-mail is a very easy to get into source of private data. so, you know, so long as the u.s. government doesn't want to get the u.s. information, people can feel reasonably comfortable that it's not tha
this whole thing was triggered into an fbi investigation due to e-mails sent by two people who were -- how do we put it, having a relationship with petraeus one way or another? >> you know, girls get jealous and start threatening each other on e-mail. >> when did that become an fbi crime? >> this is a reminder that our law enforcement alleges have a lot of discretion into the people they might trigger investigations to be pursued. that's what happened here. the fbi agent...
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as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> but the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the senator called it, you know, a committee to look at this thing and make the determination on what the narrative was. the narrative was wrong. and why that's important, this isn't just about parsing words and who was right. there was some policy decisions made based on the narrative that was not consistent with the intelligence that we had. that's my concern. and we need to say, hey, we need to figure out how that happened, and let's make sure that doesn't happen again. >> did people die because we didn't protect them adequately? is that the bottom line here? >> david, we gave the direction yesterday that th
as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> but the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the senator called it, you know,...
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we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this, does this help them politically by shielding them or does petraeus here saying i thought it was a terrorist attack, does that mean this puts, for example, susan rice's statements more up to scrutiny? >> well, i think answers the fundamental question, did they deliberately mislead on this case for political reasons because they were driving the narrative that al-qaeda had been decimated and the war, war was receding or a question of incompetence. neither of those two things is good for the administration although it's after the election, so, they can get the consequences. >> let's take a look at the president talking about susan rice, the u.n. ambassador who many think he will nominate to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. >> for them to go after
we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this, does this help them politically by shielding them or does petraeus here saying i thought it was a terrorist attack, does that mean this puts, for...
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>> i am worry about somewhere between the fbi and department. justice. someone didn't take it to the president of the united states. and when you are the period of the central intelligence agency. that is vital something that may be compromisinglet person. i don't want to the end. but i want the president to know in the beginning. and do you worry that the fbi was overaggressive in seeking out the facts and circumstances surrounding the affair. >> it is it always a legitimate. but when you are dialing with the cia director, it is a little different than most other people and because there is it such implication for national security. a lot of questions and answers and i don't want to jump to too many. you have four dead people in the benghazi and in the hospital still tonight. >> what about congressman king's contention on friday that there was a change in the national briefing that mentioned al-qaida. and by the time susan rice went on the sunday, infamous appearances on the sunday talk shows, that was deleted from her brief. >> if that is true, mr. pre
>> i am worry about somewhere between the fbi and department. justice. someone didn't take it to the president of the united states. and when you are the period of the central intelligence agency. that is vital something that may be compromisinglet person. i don't want to the end. but i want the president to know in the beginning. and do you worry that the fbi was overaggressive in seeking out the facts and circumstances surrounding the affair. >> it is it always a legitimate. but...
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had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi, everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. so that -- you know, i don't know whether -- what they said yesterday is exactly right or not, but what i do know is that every member of the intelligence community said that references to al-qaeda were removed by somebody and they don't know who. and references to attacks versus demonstrations were removed by somebody. >> let me ask you a question. will your committee, call on excuse son rice to ask her to testify? >> i don't know the answer to that right now. we will talk about that. we have two more hearings scheduled. >> do you think she will be called? >> she's going to have to come in and of it at some point. whether it's in a closed hearing or open hearing. we will have an open hearing too but at some point she needs to come in and say what the president or the white house directed her to say. >> senator leiberm
had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi, everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. so that -- you know, i don't know whether -- what they said yesterday is exactly right or not, but what i do know is that every member of the intelligence community said that references to al-qaeda were removed by somebody...
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that was enough to keep the fbi involved updating director david mueller and attorney generaleribbing holder. >> president obama is in thailand mark the first foreign hip since winning a second trip in the white house. he went to bangkok to meet the 8-year-old king and after walking with the prime ministerof thailand he attend a joint press conference in the -- and addressed the conflict of israel and gaza. he warned ground invasion would increase the death toll. >> there's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside the borders. so, we are fully supportive of israel's right to defend itself from missiles landing on people's homes and workplaces and potentially killing civilians. >> the president will be making a stop in cambodia during the three-nation tour of asia. >>> preliminary numbers show most virginias came to the pollon election day prepared to comply with the voter id law. figures show less than 5% of the more than 11,000 provisional ballots recorded as of thursday were cast because the voter didn't have the proper id. the law r
that was enough to keep the fbi involved updating director david mueller and attorney generaleribbing holder. >> president obama is in thailand mark the first foreign hip since winning a second trip in the white house. he went to bangkok to meet the 8-year-old king and after walking with the prime ministerof thailand he attend a joint press conference in the -- and addressed the conflict of israel and gaza. he warned ground invasion would increase the death toll. >> there's no...
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and the fbi is not just reading david petraeus's e-mails. he was one of a thousand people whose gmail accounts the federal government went after. >> i think they will finally resolve it, hopefully before the d of the year. get together, three to one. john is 42. mortgage. married. two great kids. he wants to protect his faly with a $500,000 term life insurance policy. what do you think it'll cost him? a hundred dollars a month? sixty? forty? actually none of the above. john can get a $500,000 policy -from a highly rateinsurer - for under $25 a month. his secret? selectquote. selectquote is impartial. they'll search the pick of insurers like these to give you a choice of your best prices. selectquote has great savings on term life for women, too. john's wife carrie, can get a $500,000 policy for under $16 a month. selectquote has helped make term life insurance affordable for hundreds of ousands of people since 1985. how about you? just call this number or visit selectquote dot com. gerri: states across the country are scrambling to set up he
and the fbi is not just reading david petraeus's e-mails. he was one of a thousand people whose gmail accounts the federal government went after. >> i think they will finally resolve it, hopefully before the d of the year. get together, three to one. john is 42. mortgage. married. two great kids. he wants to protect his faly with a $500,000 term life insurance policy. what do you think it'll cost him? a hundred dollars a month? sixty? forty? actually none of the above. john can get a...
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and the fbi is not just reading david petraeus's e-mails. he was one of a thousand people whose gmail accounts the federal government went after. >> i think they will finally resolve it, hopefully before the end of the year. get together, three to one. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of businesspeople. anregions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. gerri: states across the country are scrambling to set up health insurance exchanges. just one of the many mandates in obamacare. the extended today's deadline for states comply with the law for another month. twenty states have already aid they will not create their own exchanges. rather, they will leave believe it to the federal government to run. mississippi, despite the governor's opposition to the lot, is going ahead with the exchange. earlier i sat down with bill b
and the fbi is not just reading david petraeus's e-mails. he was one of a thousand people whose gmail accounts the federal government went after. >> i think they will finally resolve it, hopefully before the end of the year. get together, three to one. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of businesspeople. anregions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. from business loans to cash management, we want...
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fbi investigators continue to pour over broadwell's computer and xes of evidence taken from her chat lrlotte home to determ if she had classified information she was not entitled to possess. this morning, differing views on whether the decorated army general needed to resign as director of cia after petraeus' afrar with his biographer, broadwell, became public. >> i come from a tradition that believes in original sin. none of us is perfect. >> behavior is personally unacceptable. >> reporter: his fall from grace has raised questions about how our leading generals live. four-star generals are surrounded by staff, security te teams, which all disappear when they take off the uniform. >> you see the medals he has. you see the stars. one day, he takes all of that off. it is a major adjustment. i think we need to look at this transitioning of people. >> reporter: feinstein went on to add that is no excuse for petraeus' behavior. the senator also wants to know who authored those talking points on the benghazi, libya, attack, which susan rice used. she said she would like to know why the ci
fbi investigators continue to pour over broadwell's computer and xes of evidence taken from her chat lrlotte home to determ if she had classified information she was not entitled to possess. this morning, differing views on whether the decorated army general needed to resign as director of cia after petraeus' afrar with his biographer, broadwell, became public. >> i come from a tradition that believes in original sin. none of us is perfect. >> behavior is personally unacceptable....
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the other extreme is you can look at fbi statistics. you'll see that border areas have less murders. i do not want to get into definitional debate. we can talk about what spillover is. >> you commented. you work yourself as a sponsor for additional resources. i am grateful for you doing that. you brought us the general report. to say that it is improper to say that there is -- washington is in denial. to attack two of our nation's senior military professionals, like you did in the congressional hearing, and when they were merely giving their reflection of what is going on based on their decades of experience -- you are dead wrong. i want to follow up with that. here is why washington is in denial -- the president of the united states comes to the state and makes jokes about the safety and security of our country and joking about the border being safer than ever. we have had 140 dead bodies discovered in the last year alone on two rural texas counties. the statistics are great. no amount of statistics can cover up the bullet holes. >> yo
the other extreme is you can look at fbi statistics. you'll see that border areas have less murders. i do not want to get into definitional debate. we can talk about what spillover is. >> you commented. you work yourself as a sponsor for additional resources. i am grateful for you doing that. you brought us the general report. to say that it is improper to say that there is -- washington is in denial. to attack two of our nation's senior military professionals, like you did in the...
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the fbi calls you and says, we know this, you know this, no one else knows this, you're operating on one -- >> congressman becerra, get in the middle between those guys. >> there was a personal failing, a deep severe personal failing. does it break into the realm of the public world, the responsibilities that -- >> what about judgment? what about judgment. >> well, that's surely the point. >> isn't this the bottom line here. >> the american people are not moralous about this. they never gave up their affection for and job approval of bill clinton. this is a question of you want your cia director to have good judgment, is that asking too much? and this was obviously a case of bad judgment. there's a -- i would hope, by the way -- >> should it just be the cia director or anybody? where do you draw the line? >> i don't know where you draw the line but especially the cia director. this might also be a good time for the country to think about the militarization of the cia. i'm not sure we should have military leaders leading the cia >> that's been a long debate. that's why they wanted him
the fbi calls you and says, we know this, you know this, no one else knows this, you're operating on one -- >> congressman becerra, get in the middle between those guys. >> there was a personal failing, a deep severe personal failing. does it break into the realm of the public world, the responsibilities that -- >> what about judgment? what about judgment. >> well, that's surely the point. >> isn't this the bottom line here. >> the american people are not...